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Continue to ChatI started out with Buzz Sawyer in Sacramento. He had me shoot on guys and beat them up. They tossed me a few bones here and there. But, after Buzz passed away, I started seeking training elsewhere. - Ken Shamrock from https://whatsmyquote.com/quote/i-started-out-with-buzz-sawyer-in-sacramento-he-had-me-shoot-on-guys-and-beat-them-up-they-tossed-me-a-few